Mexican avant-garde extreme metal project The Outsider has just launched a new single featuring Shining singer and saxophonist Jørgen Munkeby, as na overture to the upcoming full-length release. Rocking Charts chatted with the man behind the project, The Outsider, and here is what he had to say.
Hello. How are you doing?
Hi, fine, thanks for the interview.
You have just launched a first single from the upcoming album. The song is called “Suicide is Progress” and it features saxophonist Jørgen Munkeby. How do you feel about the track in particular, and the upcoming album?
I am quite happy with the new single reception among fans, the upcoming album has a shift on the musical direction of the project and this single displays it very well, and getting positive comments from fans means that they are going to like the upcoming music. Talking particularly about the song, I am quite satisfied with the sax that Jørgen recorded for it, it fits perfectly.
What does the song title refer to? It’s pretty dark, you would agree.
It is very dark indeed, something that could be even shocking at the very first sight, but it is meant to be that way because the song can be shocking too for some people
Tell me more about the message of the song and its lyrics.
Well, the exact topic of the song will remeain undisclosed (as the lyrics of many of the songs on the new album), I like people to figure out what the lyrics are exactly about, make them think a bit and see that from different perspectives it can mean different things. The only thing I can say is that is about mental illness and descent into madness, and how dangerous it can be for humanity to give power to mentally ill people or let them become leaders.
How much of a challenge was to work on the album?
It was a great challenge in many ways, from the economical part to the creative part, talking about this it was very challenging because I wanted to break my own musical borders and that is not that easy, it takes time and effort, shifting the way you see music is difficult but very interesting, so far I am satisfied with the result but I am going for more.
What other artists similar to your genre that are coming from Mexico are you friends with?
Well, talking about metal in general I am a good friend of Rick Loera, leader of The Legion of Hetheria, also brothers Bart and Jero Chanona are good friends of mine, they are formerly from a band called Nuclear Chaos, who even played in Wacken and Metaldays some years ago
What is your opinion about the current metal scene?
I think we are in a very interesting transition era, legendary bands that are retiring and newer bands are making their way to headline tours and festivals, digital stuff is taking over the industry, industry itself is changing a lot, musically speaking there are many bands breaking boundaries. I think that makes the scene very interisting, at least for me.
Can you tell me something about your influences?
Well the main influences for my first releases are bands like Therion, Septicflesh, Rotting Christ, Sigh, Behemoth. But for this upcoming album and for the music I am writing for future releases my influences are wider, the bands I mentioned before are of course still an influence, but I’m being influenced by a lot of prog and avantgarde stuff lately, mainly King Crimson. I can say that overall I am taking more influences from other metal subgenres like Doom and Black metal, also drone and experimental; and also music that is not metal, like jazz or electronic. I basically like to say that everything that represents progress in art and is not afraid of changes, can be an influence, and I’m not talking only about music, also for films and books.
What are you listening to these days?
Well, I am quite obsessed with the latest releases from Jinjer, Leprous, The Great Old Ones, Asagraum, Mayhem, Cult of Luna, Lingua Ignota, Rammstein and Mgla.
Your 5 favourite records of all the time?
That is a very difficult question since I listen to a lot of music and many bands can be influence, but If I have to pick five those will be:
Marilyn Manson – Antichrist Superstar
King Crimson – In the Court of the Crimson King
Sigh – Gallows Gallery/In Somniphobia/Graveward (sorry, can’t chose only one)
Therion – Vovin/Theli (same as above)
Septicflesh – A Great Mass
Can you tell me a little bit more about the gear you used to record the album?
I’m don’t consider myself a gear geek, so there is nothing really special about the gear I used, as long as it works and has good quality I take it, I am not obsessed on an specific sound of guitar or bass, probably because my songs are not guitar driven. I focus on composition and orchestral stuff.
Besides the release of the album, are there any other plans for the future?
I am currently working on the succesor of this new album, it is almost written actually, it will be a “part 2” of this new album I am about to release. I want to focus on releasing music and growing a fanbase before playing live, so there will be a lot of music from now henceforth.
Any words for the potential new fans?
Well, if they are looking from something different to challenge your ears give a try to my upcoming music and current single, but beware, you need to be open-minded.